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Jun 24, 2023·Review·31:42·371·Watch on YouTube

LOWENHERZ vs. DOMAINE Which one stays in my collection? (Board Game Comparison/Review 1997 v 2003)

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Watch “LOWENHERZ vs. DOMAINE Which one stays in my collection? (Board Game Comparison/Review 1997 v 2003),” a board game review for Löwenherz on BoardGameVideo.

Description provided by Undiscovered Games on YouTube:

*CLARIFICATION:* Some kind users brought to my attention the scoring in Lowenherz. Apparently I have been scoring this game wrong for years! You only count total squares when the region is *first* created. If you expand or lose squares, it's only 1 point per space (but still 5 points per castle/town). This means you don't have to refer to that chart EVERY time you gain or lose squares. Wow! That makes the scoring MUCH more streamlined and definitely tips the scales in favor of Lowenherz regarding the wonkyness & scoring segments of my breakdown. In addition, I mentioned the King Is Dead card is on the bottom of the pile in Lowenherz. That is also a slight error; the King Is Dead card is shuffled in with the E cards, which means you don't know for sure when the game ends. The Lowenherz rulebook is poorly worded regarding both of these rules, so I would give more points in favor of Domaine for the rulebook segment of the video. In conclusion, *THIS DOES NOT CHANGE THE OUTCOME OF MY VIDEO!* In fact, it just gives the winner more points, and strengthens my conviction that I made the right decision on which game to keep! _This video is not meant to be a tutorial, only a comparison. Please read the rulebooks thoroughly before playing._ *JOIN HERE to become a member of Undiscovered Games & access UG perks!* Click here for membership info: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgImu-u5k5V1FgmsjfAUasg/join _To get the $1.99 membership pricing, *use a browser, not the YouTube app.* Some companies charge extra for in-app purchases, which is outside of my control. Once you set up your membership, you can use the YouTube app as usual from any device and access all your member perks._ *OTHER WAYS TO SUPPORT THE CHANNEL* - I can now accept Super Thanks right here on YouTube. There should be a ... button right below the video - Subscribe and get 1 or 2 friends to subscribe too - Follow me on Instagram @ undiscovered_games - Comment, like, & share my content - Watch my other videos - *Digital Tip Jar* - Donate without becoming a member: https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=Z9Z52JAFF3Q5E _Payments are processed securely by PayPal, but you don't need a PayPal account to make a donation._ *ABOUT THIS CHANNEL:* Undiscovered Games is a YouTube channel dedicated to the lesser-known & forgotten board games. We are still a relatively small channel trying to build an audience who appreciates these hidden gems and forgotten games. If you want to go on this journey to discover the undiscovered, please subscribe to the channel, share our content, and consider becoming a member or giving a small donation to help us grow. *EPISODE 18* is my first installment of Board Game vs. Board Game! I am featuring a side-by-side comparison of LÖWENHERZ (1997) and DOMAINE (2003). I have never been able to decide which game I like better, so I decided to do an in-depth analysis, assigning points to each game in various categories like graphics, theme, decisions, etc. My goal was to determine which game stays in my collection. I am not trying to convince you one way or another which game is better; this is just an exercise to help me decide. However, my hope is that you can also use this information to better decide for yourself. *Follow me on Instagram @ Undiscovered_Games* for cool pictures, written reviews, and more undiscovered games that didn't make it to my YouTube channel. *Find me on BGG @ Undiscovered_Games* *For business inquiries,* _send me a DM on Instagram or BGG._ _This video is NOT sponsored. The opinions shared are those of the host and are presented for entertainment purposes only._ Timecodes: 0:00 - Intro & Objective 2:38 - Aesthetics & Components 2:51 - Game Box (Size, Art, Storage) 4:03 - Game Title & Subtitle 5:02 - Rulebook 5:54 - Game Board, Cards, Graphics 9:40 - Plastic Pieces 11:38 - Aesthetics Recap 12:00 - Gameplay 12:31 - Setup 14:37 - Scoring, Winning, Theme 18:02 - Turns, Wonky/Fiddlyness 20:17 - In-Game Decisions 25:25 - Luck & Randomness 26:56 - Appropriate Game Length 28:59 - Audience Appeal 29:42 - CONCLUSION

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Löwenherz

Löwenherz

1997·Klaus Teuber

2 - 4 players
60 - 90 min
Medium weight: Teach it in one sitting

About Löwenherz, from BoardGameGeek:

The king lies near death, so the princes compete to dominate the kingdom and secure the throne by grabbing as much land as possible. This is, in the ideal, a 4 player game. Each turn a card is revealed that displays 3 actions that players can choose from. Each player in turn choose an action by playing a 1, 2 or 3 card identifying the first, second or third action on the revealed card. The beauty of this mechanism lies in the distribution of 3 actions among 4 players. Someone always misses out. If two players choose the same action (and this is often, decided by the last player as the first 3 often - not always - but often choose actions a1, 2 and 3) the players who chose it negotiate a solution. If they cannot come to an agreement they duel. This is one of the defining elements of the game, but can take some time (negotiations can) and so was dropped from the re-implementation as Domaine. The game board is built of 6 tiles randomly placed in a frame producing a slightly different game each time. It is seen by many as the third in a Teuber thematic trilogy defined by Entdecker, Catan, Löwenherz. The board is conflicted and in the manner of Go the idea is to capture as much territory as possible. Each player starts with three castles (12 across all four players, and a crowded board). They build walls to create kingdoms, and train knights to defend them, both key actions on that action card they bid on each turn. Consequently this is a high conflict area grabbing game with a heavy element of negotiation.

Designer

Klaus Teuber

Artist

Andreas Steiner

Publisher

Goldsieber Spiele

Categories

MedievalPolitical

Mechanics

Area Majority / InfluenceAuction / Bidding
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